[ใหม่] Just what I was after..., Samsung PN63C8000
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I have been waiting a while to get a decent high end TV, and have
browsed for a good while to select this one. It goes in a room with a
fair degree of ambient light, and I thought a TV design that pays the
most attention to decent blacks would be a good way to go.
This was a bundle at a special price (BD player, glasses, 3D movie,
and TV). The first one arrived with a cracked screen after waiting 6
weeks. Amazon customer service was all over it, but a new set was going
to take 4 more weeks. It ended up coming little sooner. They offered me
many other deals - substituting a 7000, etc., but I held out for what I
originally ordered, and it was worth it. The set arrived in early
October, and it was manufactured in September.
So, under those limited conditions, these are my thoughts.
Picture:
The settings out of the box seem fine to me. At some point I might
play with it, but outside of having it calibrated, I am quite satisfied
with how it looks. Details in shadow is good. Color is rich, and not
over bright like in a store. I'm in the process of getting the cable
hooked back up, so our watching has been via antenna, WiFi, and the
bundle included DVD player (BD6800).
Live HD TV looks awesome, and digital SD TV looks way better than I
expected. colors are rich, detail is crisp. Complex patterns on things
like sweaters or telephone lines do not moire (although depending upon
the signal, can have a few issues if you watch for it). One anecdote:
watching an old Seinfeld episode (the 1990s were before HD), there was
one character who required a makeup appliance to their face for part of
the story (a large nose). The station was transmitting in HD, via
antenna. Closeups on this person were practically unwatchable, as the
makeup was woefully bad. I'm sure this was not an issue on SD analog
broadcasts, so they probably didn't even worry about it, but it was
shockingly bad when we saw it. I guess old shows that were filmed (as
opposed to video taped) convert well to HD, because this makeup job was
hideous.
The picture just blows everyone who sees it away. It's so much
better than I'm used to, so I'm probably too biased, but I thought it
was noticeably better than everything in the store when I auditioned it
except the new Panasonic 3D 65" (TC-P65VT25). It's hard to tell, because
brightness is so over driven in stores.
Tuner:
This tuner is more sensitive than a 2 year old Sharp Aquos 32" TV we
had in the same spot (using an amplified Radio Shack loop and rabbit
ears). We are in a decent signal area between two cities, and get a fair
amount of signals. On a weaker signal just above the threshold for
pixelization, artifacts pop in every so often, but are not distracting.
On Line Content:
I have not tested the on line content direct from the TV because I
don't have the proprietary WiFi accessory nor a CAT 5 connection, so I
have been using Samsung's on line content via the BD player, which has
WiFi built in. Why they didn't do this with the TV I don't know.
On line content (assuming it the same as the TV offers when
connected directly) leaves something to be desired. Haven't spent much
time on the games. They provide some mild amusement, but we're not video
gamers. I would suspect if you are, these won't satisfy much.
Connecting to the network only took a minute or two, including my WEP
key (other encryption also supported), but my initial firmware update
(on the player) just would not execute. Samsung support suggested I use a
flash drive from a PC to download the file, unzip it, and then plug the
flash drive into the player. That worked like a charm, and subsequent
firmware updates have not required that process.
We haven't used the trial for VOD via NetFlix or Blockbuster yet, so
can't comment on that. Standard internet content (Youtube)is
interesting, but resolution is low, so the experience is more for
convenience. Google maps: It's a little eerie to be looking at your
house from space on your TV. On a computer it's something you take for
granted. On a large screen TV from your family room, it "feels" a little
intrusive. You can also watch media from a USB flash drive or the
network, and you can even play music via the same.
Any on line content requiring alpha numeric text to navigate can be
somewhat maddening. As great as the remote is, the interface is not
always intuitive. I say always, because while trying to do alpha numeric
on a Google map search we could not figure out how to navigate the
Samsung on screen interface, but on youtube it was less complicated,
just slow to maneuver. It didn't make sense to me that the options on
screen for selecting text were different for one than the other. I tend
to avoid those features for that reason. Maybe a wireless keyboard would
solve that issue. At least the response time is fast (not quite
immediate), unlike a FiOS cable box, where the lag can drive you crazy.
Remote & GUI:
The remote is simple to use and not busy with a zillion nonesensical
buttons. It's layed out extremely well, and clearly marked with large,
square buttons, so my wife actually doesn't keep calling me into the
room to help her navigate back to where she wants to be, and it's also
very attractive (bright silver metal housing), and backlit.
Menus, channel changes, etc. are instantaneous. The GUI is very
clean, transparent, and easy to navigate. It doesn't take long to learn
it and get good at using it. Most tasks can be accomplished fairly
quickly and without drilling too deep, and it's quick to exit.
Audio:
The sound is fairly anemic with built in speakers - adequate for a
large open space we have it in, but nothing to look forward to. Hooking
up my theater will solve that.
3D:
Going from 2D to 3D is extremely easy (taking a 2D source and
simulating 3D), but I don't think anyone is going to really want to do
that much. It's an "interesting effect" but not consistent, and frankly
the picture is so stunning, not necessary. Watching 2D NCAA/NFL football
in 3D, the graphics float in the foreground (pretty interesting), and
the game action has a subtle 3D effect, but it doesn't buy you much.
Watching 3D content is kind of cool. The bundle came with a 3D
animated feature (Monsters vs Aliens) which was fun, and you can easily
switch to 2D on any 3D content if your glasses aren't handy. Watching
the World Cup in 3D in a store was pretty wild. At one point there was a
guy standing in front of me who was not in the room!
If you're going to watch 3D, it's best in a dark room, and
especially where it's dark behind you. My TV is in an open floor plan,
where lights from other rooms are behind me. I've noticed it gets
distracting to watch 3D when there is light reflecting off the glasses
from behind, but the program is much enhanced when that is not the case.
At first I thought the 3D was very underwhelming. It's not perfect, but
subtle glare from behind has a subliminal effect that really subtracts
from the experience, so 3D content is more fun than I originally
experienced once I eliminated that.
Other notes:
Aesthetically, the set is gorgeous. Samsung PN63C8000's also razor thin. I should
also add I don't get the electrical hum people complain about on earlier
large screen Samsung sets.
The BD player has been excellent. Fast to load SD and starts up
really quickly. BD content takes a little longer, 3D the longest.